Andrew Weatherall - 2 Lone Swordsmen 
 Andrew Weatherall has been one of the leading figures on the British underground scene for 15 years. Known for his skillful DJ-abilities in presenting an extremely diverse musical taste.

 On the way Weatherall has been involved in making his own music under various disguises, probably best known for his work as 2 Lone Swordsmen with partner Keith Tenniswoode. Weatherall also found the time to run his own label and remixing artists like My Bloody Valentine, Stereo Mc's, The Grid and Future Sound of London. Clubbing met the symphatic Londoner at this years Roskilde Festival. We had arranged a 15 minutes interview, but things developed so interesting that we enjoyed each others company for half an hour.
You have had an extraordinary career spanning over the last 15 years club culture in Britain. Which effect have this had on you?
 It means that I don't have a life outside the music. The reason I've managed to stay doing it for so long is because the music is the most important part. It sounds a bit corny, but it is like that.
I'm still obsessed by music, and every minute I'm not doing music is a waste of time to me.
So the reason why I've been able to stay in the game is because I've never lost the obsession and hunger for new music. It's as simple as that. If you put that amount of time into music that I do the rewards hopefully turns out.
 
How do you manage finding the time to be involved in all these activities?
 Well, I don't get the time! Luckily, I have people to do the business side of things, because I'm a really, really bad businessman. A lot of the day to day running of stuff, like legal bits & pieces of running a label, I don't actually do, because I just wouldn't have the time physically to run a label. With so many labels around it’s a seven-day a week job. Fortunately I have good people whom I trust helping me out with these things so I can concentrate on making music.

What has changed in the culture you've been a part of all these years?
 As far as I see it, club culture and dance music is now crossed over into pop culture, there's no division anymore. This has come around with the increased information from the Internet, cable-TV etc. When I started off it took like a year or two to go from the underground into the charts. Now everything is so fast that it only takes 2 weeks to go from club to pop music. The culture where I started has gone into pop culture. I'm not involved in pop culture, but I think it's really funny that I've was partly involved with something that has gone pop. Where I come from, things like Throbbing Gristle, then got into acid house and has developed into house in the charts. I think it's quite bizarre how it's has gone from basically two clubs in London in 1988to a worldwide phenomena within a matter of years. That's the mad thing to see how it has developed. Some people in my sort of field get's fucked off the mainstream, but I don't give a shit and just think it's really funny. To me it’s just like watching a crazy film or another planet. It's annoying sometimes when it's causing that people who really loves their music aren't able to make a living because of it but that's just the way it goes sometimes. If you're involved in experimentation don't expect to become a millionaire. It's important that stupid things like this exists as an opposite in order to show people the good music there's around-


Could you tell us the story of your musical partnership with your friend Keith Tenniswoode?

 It started like 4-5 years ago. Keith was an engineer at my studio and we had like 2 weeks in the studio, so I just went out and bought loads of old records from secondhand stores. We decided to do it like I just pulled a record from my bag and whatever I pulled out we had to sample and make a track from it. Basically we made a double album in 2 weeks, which was really quick and really enjoyable. I intended to put it out as a limited edition of 500 copies, but the distribution company told me to make a proper release. It did ok, it was “The 5'th mission” album. From there Keith and I really hit it of in the studio and working with Keith brought the fun into making music again, which a few years prior had been lacking. We just learned from each other and still do and have a laugh together doing it. When the fun goes of it there will be no more 2 Lone Swordsmen records.

Did you start of making music on your own or where there an engineer involved all the way?
 The only reason I was asked to go into the studio was because I had a good record collection.
Various groups heard me DJ and liked what I was playing and obviously realized that I had a good ear for music. I'm not classically trained so I went in with an engineer. After all I don't like solitary work in a creative process. I just like the fact to have someone with me inspirational wise.

You contributed with a remix to Future Sound of London's “Papua New Guinea when it was initially released in 1992. Was it for the same reason they wanted you to do a remix?. What's your point of view to its re-release this year?
 I'm really critical when it comes to my previous works. You can always do something better, but if people still likes it, it must be ok. I always think that I could made something better, technically speaking. But they reason why they wanted me to do a remix was because I played the original which not many people where playing it at the time. So I believe they wanted me to remix it because I helped making that record become more popular in England.

When it comes to venues and music around the globe, what is doing it for you right now?
 I read this article in an English newspaper and there was this guy saying that there are not so many ideas in dance music at the moment. And I was like, for fucks sake, I got really angry because I think there are so much good music and so many great labels. It's very hard to pick just one but do you know the label Shitkatapult?. I really like that as well as World Electric. So many great records and labels so it hard to mention just one. I know that every day I got into a record shop I'll came out with a bag full of records that are going to blow me away. I like straight up dance floor techno, I like abstract hip-hop, Country & Western etc. There's just soo much music as well as old music to be discovered. I just started to buy late 60's/early 70's psyche/garage music. That's a whole new world to me, which I know the basics of. People think that I've got a really big record collection, but if I had it my way, it would be five times as big. It all goes back to that hunger for music; I want to hear something else all the time and just impatient to expand my horizon and get blown away al the time.


What can we expect to come from you music wise?

 As the cliché goes: Expect the unexpected! For the next 2 Lone Swordsmen album we are going to use a lot more live instruments. Not just using samples but “live” samples recorded from a band rather than just taking stuff of records. I'd like to put old, dirty sounds into the computer; I don't like clean stuff in my music. To me that's the way forward. Funk s always got to be dirty It has to be horrible and grimy.

What is to expect from the new Primal Scream album, which you been involved in producing?
 I've only just heard the new album yesterday, and it's really amazing. It's like The Stooges meets Drexciya or something. Imagine taking a flight, having one weekend in Detroit and the next weekend in Berlin. It's absolutely brilliant. What I like about it is that working on “Screamadelica” was like photograph of that time, where this new album feels like a photograph of my time, the time I'm living in. It feels really relevant to me and hopefully that's why people want to pick up on that. That why “Screamadelica” was so good, because it was like a snapshot of their lives and it's the same thing with this new album. “Sreamadelica” was quite an Ecstasy album. The new one is more like dirty speed, Hells Angels speed (laughter).

What about remixing other people’s material?
 We’ve just done a remix of Beth Orthon and she likes it so much that they’re going to use that version for the next single. We’ve done a remix for Slam, which has got Dot Allison singing on it. That’s about it, I think, at the moment because we’ve been working on the Primal Scream album. On my label there’s a remix compilation coming out and I’ve remixed one of Keith’s tracks. We were supposed to start off on 2 Lone Swordsmen music in January but we kept getting tracks from the Primal Scream album and remixing them. But we’re going to stop doing remixes for 2 months and do some music. We’ll just do remixes for friends and small labels, where we got a few things waiting. We just never stops recording music and the good thing is that I got my own label Warp allows us to release stuff on other labels as long as it’s not called 2 Lone Swordsmen. We record for 2 months and get maybe 20 tracks out of it. Which we listen to and think; ok this is 2 Lone Swordsmen tracks, this is something else. That’s the good thing of our way of working because if we want to put it out under this or that name for different music. We like to just put it out it’s not important that people knows who made it! That’s what it’s about to me; I’m not bothered about putting my name on it. I’m bothered about pushing good music. That’s also why I don’t do many interviews; I don’t go on the television because the music is more interesting than I am. I mean come to my club and listen to the music, don’t sit in front of the camera and ask me what are my favorite fucking colour and other stupid questions. It’s just really lazy journalism; they don’t know who you are, they don’t know what you do it’s a total waste of time. In 1992 I’ve taken too much ecstasy , I was hanging out in the rock’n’roll world and thought I was the really big guy around.

 But that’s all right because I was young and had fun. But you realize that you can’t do that forever, you got to kind of disappear and say to yourself: Ok, Taxi for Weatherall! and back out of the door with dignity. That’s what I did 5-6 years ago, I just left the party you know what I mean: Thank you very much I had a great time, you’re all lovely. Drinks we’re great, the drugs were marvelous, the ladies were fantastic, but I really got to go into my bunker. But I know that you have to show your face every now and then or else people thinks you’ve moved to another city or something. So you have to do an interview or two every now and again in order to show people: This is what I’m doing this is what I think. I don’t think I’m better than anyone or I’m the king of whatever scene.

 You’re not going to open every magazine and say to yourself: Fucking Andrew Weatherall again. Basically you just need one good magazine, so people know what you’re doing and then Taxiiii and then fuck off.

Thanks for taking you’re time!
You’re welcome

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Audio part
Listen to an extra interview with Keith Tenniswoode here done at Roskilde Fesival 2002. Sorry about the background noise, but it was made backstage before Keith Tenniswoode as Radioactive Man performed at the Roskilde Festival.
Length: 10.54 min, mono 32kbps
Size: 2556Kb
Format: MP3
Text : Klaus Boss, Interviews : Klaus Boss and Christian Almind

Interview with Andrew Weatherall was published in Clubbing Magazine #6 Okt-Nov 2002

 
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